Sg2 Perspectives

A podcast connecting you to Sg2 thought leadership…anytime, anywhere.

Sg2 Perspectives brings together Sg2 experts and health care industry thought leaders to discuss popular Sg2 publications, key event takeaways and other strategic topics keeping health system leadership teams up at night. The podcast is hosted by Trevor DaRin, Jayme Zage, PhD, and Tori Richie, and new episodes will be released every Wednesday. Contact the hosts anytime at

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 January 13, 2020

2: Sg2 Perspectives: Innovation

Henry Soch, Principal, Intelligence, Sg2 and Chris Cornue, former Chief Strategy and Chief Innovation Officer, Navicent Health

Chris and Henry share the themes and key takeaways from the Sg2 event “Innovation: Moving From Silos to Scale.” They also put the exciting presentations from the event into the broader context of how health systems are pursuing innovation work.

Read more from Henry about how health systems are tackling innovation here

Sg2 members can tap into more innovation resources at

Show Notes:
[01:26] The context of innovation within healthcare.
[04:11] Why it’s important to have innovation tied to your strategy.
[05:28] Linking strategy with innovation to guide the organization.
[06:13] An example of how innovation isn’t effective in the healthcare industry.
[08:03] Broad aspects of innovation, including removing waste and not falling into the shiny new technology for the sake of technology.
[09:15] Creating change within your organization.
[10:35] Asking the right questions to create change in your organization.
[13:21] Mission-driven industries and the broader mission of curing cancer.
[16:31] How to be impactful when using innovation.
[17:33] Leveraging intellectual property in the life sciences industry.
[19:09] Value-laden change in the healthcare industry.

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 December 16, 2019

1: Sg2 Perspectives: Grill Bill

Bill Woodson, Senior Principal, Intelligence, Sg2

In the first episode of the new Sg2 podcast, Sg2 Perspectives, we jump right in with thought-leader Bill Woodson to pick his brain about a subject we continue to work with members on: the progress and promise of scale. Consolidation among health care providers continues, but the challenging work of true integration and clinical scale remain, in most cases, as aspirational rather than immediate goals.

We tackle the tough questions:

  • How are health systems moving towards the promise of scale?
  • What lessons have been learned thus far?
  • Could there be an impetus to really accelerate change?

Visit Sg2’s blog for more on scale from Bill Woodson.

Sg2 members can read more in our resource kit from the 2019 Executive Summit (login required).

Show Notes:
[01:21] How Bill decided to talk about scale as a feature for this episode.
[02:21] Vision and scale: how does Bill see leaders evolving around the concept of scale.
[03:02] What leaders are saying publicly and behind the curtain about expanding healthcare systems.
[03:47] Problems in healthcare which are solved by scale.
[04:36] The potential for healthcare systems to lower costs in the near future.
[08:23] Two levers which need to be taken to achieve the promise of healthcare.
[10:23] Strategic capital and fixed capital needs of healthcare over the next decade.
[13:21] Creating scale in independent practices and vertical integration.
[17:11] Clinical scale and Bill’s thoughts on execution of clinical scale.
[21:19] Closing thoughts on long-term vision of healthcare and scale.

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